Leslie Jones declares 'marriage is legalized slavery,' may as well involve 'whip and chain'

"Absolutely f---ing not," Jones said, clarifying that her father raised her not only to not be a tradwife but to not be anybody's wife. "My dad used to literally say that to me, 'I didn't raise you to be somebody's wife.'

"Most of the people that I know that's gotten married are divorced now," Jones added.

When Ziwe suggested that was an indictment of the institution of marriage itself, Jones replied, "Yeah. I think marriage is legalized slavery."

Ziwe, appearing to be somewhat taken aback, encouraged her to elaborate "because if I'm thinking about slavery, and I'm thinking about marriage, there are two different images that come to mind."

"Absolutely not. I don't think I - I don't know how you don't," Jones argued. "Especially if he expecting you to be a tradwife. He might as well pull out a whip and a chain."

"Wow," Ziwe replied, before pivoting by asking what she would advise to young people considering marriage. 

She explained she does not hate men per se, but she is disappointed at them as a group. 

"Because they're not stepping up to the plate. While we sat and grew and got our s--- together, they sat on the couch and played their Sega Genesis," Jones said, referring to a video game console released in the late 1980s.

Ziwe recalled to Jones an incident when they sat courtside at an NBA game, and Jones had been given a disciplinary card for her conduct as an attendee.

"I did see you bark at a young man with an afro," Ziwe recalled.

"He was hot," Jones replied. "And you knew that that was well in my right to do that."

"It's interesting as you talk about how men should do better and get better. You're barking at a, you know, young 24-year-old doing their job," Ziwe said.

Jones said she has no apologies for such behavior.

"I'm 58, and I should be able to do what I want," she said.